you're absolutely right, they're not the same, at least not yet.
I still use firefox, because they still allow adblockers and also partly ideological reasons; i don't want there to just be one rendering engine that exists. But i'm not under any illusion that mozilla is not evil.
If we take Cory Doctorow's framework, they're still in the "be good to your users to get them to use you" or early in the "slightly enshitify to please your business clients" phase, and aren't nearly as far down as chromium is yet.
Mozilla gets (got!!!) most of its money from google to use google as the default search engine, but they've seen the writing on the wall for a while and have tried to diversify their income stream from that.
Unfortunately that means they've kind of abandoned their main claim to fame, "we respect your privacy more than chrome does" because they need to make money and they've chosen to get in to the same business as google. Sort of rational for them but a terrible shame for all of us.
There's now basically two browsers and web rendering engines and they're both maintained by spyware companies.
Most of the time it doesn't do anything, and I only report people who are very blatantly over the line. The polite hate speech couched in "reasonable concerns and the spirit of open debate" is still rampant.
flabberghaster wrote
Reply to went on a nice walk at a state park. so much pine needle. i am a bit jokerified though by twovests
This is beautiful, thank you!