I kinda feel like there's a misunderstanding why astrology and occult have been seen as cool in the first place. People into those have been into them despite the polite society seeing them as silly. It's this disregard for respectability which makes them cool. Making it a wholesome queer aesthetic that demands to be respected misses the point and also any "wholesome" social space is pretty unbearable imo. Not everything needs to be a fandom.
I feel like queer spaces have really happily embraced up the gendered marketing.
Yeah I definitely agree. My expectations by now really are that it's a bunch of people with somewhat aligned interests inopposition to cishet norms and anything beyond that is a result of struggle.
Also on an entirely different tack: I just dislike how in some queer and SJ spaces it's beyond gauche to consider astrology silly. Like we ought to have some kind of reverent attitude towards it or we're some hegemonic white cishet dudebros. Like it's ok to like goofy and silly things and not to expect people to all agree with it or to think that voicing disagreement is a moral failure.
As a kid I had a demo cd that had you walk in a space ship to access video game demos and one of them was the Beavis and Butthead adventure game demo. Probably should watch the show and play the game someday!
I feel like every social media platform should come along with a dedicated PvP arenas where all rules about respect and common decency are forgotten. Many of us in the work force would have our days immeasurably improved through memetastic gladiator fights.
Wow looking or touching /r/SRS in our Anno Domini 2022? TBH it was cathartic and funny to yell at poop and see how upset it made people when basically it was all with-in the freezepeach norms your average gentlesir poster supposedly subscribed to. Also it was hilarious what a boogeyman that subreddit was back in the day!
That said, I feel like the Social Justice nexus of early 10's really doesn't exist anymore, sort of like the edgelord right got largely ingested by the MAGA machine and became more mainstream, not that their views ever were that far of from the conservatives except for liking weed and weeb stuff.
Remember the great upset of 201X when Crunchy Roll announced their own magical school girl anime? I was there, on the front lines, seeing Fans With Concerns get infinitely mad about a kinda underwhelming trailer for a children's cartoon. (I have the gnawing suspicion that the trailer was actually directed towards actual parents and kids inorder to market CR as a wholesome place for families and not just otaku perverts. It was a silly trailer none-the-less.)
The reasons for upset may have been different than what was openly claimed and once the outrage machine went brrr, it was infinite bad takes on CalArts style that clearly hadn't ever read the original John Kricfalusi essay, smh. That essay was mad petty tho and should be rightly ignored as an old man (old before his time indeed) yelling at clouds.
But one bad cartoon aside, while caring about bad faith art and media criticism has its value on its own terms, this kind of upset is especially worrisome for the possibilities and livelihoods of artists from marginalized groups. The scrutiny and standards applied to them is unfairly high and Sarah Z along with co-writer Emily take on these topics and more on this autopsy of the High Guardian Spice controversy.
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Real good shit, thank so much voxpoplar.