Submitted by twovests in just_post (edited )

explanation: rust lang's focus on inclusion lead to it having:

  • THE BEST dependency management system (cargo)
  • THE BEST CLI for managing a project (also cargo)
  • THE BEST COMPILATION ERRORS they tell u EXACTLY WHERE IT IS (also cargo)
  • a disproportionately large amount of trans people, esp trans women

but then rust got popular with tech bros through computercoin osmosis

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emma wrote

every time i tell someone 'rust sure is popular with every other tran, maybe i should learn it', they tell me i've fallen victim to queer-baiting

so to be safe, i will simply strive to learn nothing

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hollyhoppet wrote

why would somebody tell you this? don't they have something better to get upset about?

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emma wrote

i've known this person for years, and it is my belief that they do not

i'm joking about not learning anything new, though. when i get sick of current projects, and i feel i can stomach learning new tooling, i will take the time to learn rust

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hollyhoppet wrote

rust seems neat. i know tons of trans people who like it! lol

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twovests OP wrote

oh i thought you were joking

i could not have imagined a real person actually calling that queer baiting

i am interpreting this person as generously as i can but i can not imagine any worldview where 'rust is queerbaiting' is both coherent and true

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emma wrote

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twovests OP wrote (edited )

which event is this referring to? Rust Official has had a lot of Bad Events

i see jeanheyd in the thread! (context: https://thephd.dev/i-am-no-longer-speaking-at-rustconf-2023) (but i figure this is referring to something else)

i still dont feel queerbaited by rust because the community has pretty much delivered on the "programming language for transfems" meme. i haven't felt a need to learn haskell, for example

(EDIT: to be clear, im not disagreeing or defending rust, i just don't know what this is talking about)

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emma wrote (edited )

I've been trying to piece together what this is about, and it seems to be in reference to this. Also seems like a larger situation that's been brewing for a while, judging by some comments?

Anyway i was just surprised to come across a second person talking about queer baiting in relation to rust, even if it is in reference to the foundation and not the language itself

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Moonside wrote

I just read a little and apparently the type system is Turing complete? That's kinda funny, I wonder how common that is.

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twovests OP wrote

Python's types are Turing Complete too, but that makes sense because types are classes which interact with one another through code.

But in addition to types, Python has type hints! But the type hints have no semantic meaning, and are compiled away. Despite this, Python's type hints are turing complete too.

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flabberghaster wrote

Type hints are mostly used for static analysis tools, and for that it works but it is very annoying to put them just to satisfy your presubmit checks. Especially with the IMO kind of clumsy syntax. But they work well. And they do prevent very annoying bugs.

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