Moonside wrote on December 13, 2022 at 6:42 PM

Also on an entirely different tack: I just dislike how in some queer and SJ spaces it's beyond gauche to consider astrology silly. Like we ought to have some kind of reverent attitude towards it or we're some hegemonic white cishet dudebros. Like it's ok to like goofy and silly things and not to expect people to all agree with it or to think that voicing disagreement is a moral failure.

twovests OP wrote on December 15, 2022 at 4:21 PM

I feel like this too, a lot. I would have felt silly saying this otherwise, but being asked my sign really triggers my dysphoria lol. I feel like queer spaces have really happily embraced up the gendered marketing.

Moonside wrote on December 16, 2022 at 4:44 PM

I kinda feel like there's a misunderstanding why astrology and occult have been seen as cool in the first place. People into those have been into them despite the polite society seeing them as silly. It's this disregard for respectability which makes them cool. Making it a wholesome queer aesthetic that demands to be respected misses the point and also any "wholesome" social space is pretty unbearable imo. Not everything needs to be a fandom.

I feel like queer spaces have really happily embraced up the gendered marketing.

Yeah I definitely agree. My expectations by now really are that it's a bunch of people with somewhat aligned interests inopposition to cishet norms and anything beyond that is a result of struggle.