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twovests OP wrote

First, this is sitting at +1 upvotes and -9 downvotes. I am one of the downvotes. I've no idea which of these post-powered president-fucking forum freaks have voted this revolting post up.

Second, Jimmy Carter is... Oh no... Ohhoho ... Ohhnno...

Jimmy Carter is 100.25 years old, and his electability has diminished but the DNC is keeping its options open

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rain wrote (edited )

Maybe there's a reasonable explanation, but maybe the road to hell is lined with "benefit of the doubt".

Exactly. And the thing is, some fraction of the uncounted ballots probably are for completely unrelated reasons, and they rely on this for plausible deniability. But taken as a whole, I believe most of these cases are cases of deliberate lack of care, i.e., voter suppression.

The real question now is: so what? What are we going to do about it?

Edit: just to be clear, I don’t have an answer - this is just what I’ve been asking myself the last month

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rain wrote

But, why wasn't my vote counted?

I’m absolutely convinced it’s because someone knew there would be no consequences for burying it. Voter suppression is far more likely to get hand wringing than a serious response, so active grassroots voter suppression has become popular.

It’s turns out the old saying “if voting could bring change it would be illegal” was wrong. Instead, it’s “if voting could bring change we will rig the results.”

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twovests wrote

Within context, this sounds like they're talking specifically about those inside the Executive branch of the United States:

But the further down the ranks you go, the more pervasive the anger at the US’s complicity in mass slaughter becomes. An entire contingent of junior White House staffers, for instance, made up a “staffer bloc” in pro-ceasefire demonstrations in Washington, DC. As a former US diplomat, I know that many people have resigned quietly and anonymously over Gaza. Many want to quit but literally don’t know what other work they’d be qualified for. These administrators—the ones who make up most of the foreign policy bureaucracy that the Obama administration derided as “the Blob”—are the ones angriest about American policy in Gaza. They are also the ones who can do the least about it, and they know it.

(That said, I have only read part of this article so far)

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neku wrote

i'm not hostile to the overall thesis but

These administrators—the ones who make up most of the foreign policy bureaucracy that the Obama administration derided as “the Blob”—are the ones angriest about American policy in Gaza.

ooooh i wouldn't say that around a palestinian lol

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flabberghaster OP wrote

Reply to comment by twovests in cw transphobia by flabberghaster

Yeah, I 100% get why the trans person in this scenario is defending their right to shit in peace. What I'm more talking about is the fact that opponents of trans people have succeeded in diverting the entire thing into that, and frustrated by the fact that we haven't been able to break out of it.

This is a post about metanarratives, not the actual physical safety of trans people which of course the most important thing. I didn't mention it because I felt it went without saying. Idk.

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twovests wrote

I think it's that bathrooms are a place that are still gender-segregated, and where people feel vulnerable.

The patriarchy is a real thing that makes all of society asymmetrical among women and men, but focusing on the bathrooms is (1) simpler than all of that, and (2) something you can do without acknowledging the sexism built into society.

It's one place where you regularly make yourself vulnerable and to the mercy of the public, with a nice viewing-gap in every stall for some reason.

Say you have a red-blooded American idiot, feeling that natural vulnerability you feel with your cheeks on that seat. They sit down, and Tucker Carlson's visage appears in their mind, saying, "Be afraid! A transgender will RAPE you! It can HAPPEN RIGHT NOW!" And the transphobe wipes, get up, and get ready to leave, hands shaking ready to grab your pepper spray if there's a transgender on their way out.

But if you're just Any Transgender Person using the bathroom, it's probably the number one area where you can anticipate conflict. It was probably pretty scary the first few times you dared to use the "other" restroom. If you've been trans and using restroooms for awhile, you probably had conflict in the past.

You know now you got out safe, but those conflicts didn't start with that assurance. You wouldn't know if they would escalate to violence.

And when people feel increasingly empowered and even mandated to start conflicts at the bathroom, that die rolls again and again. Maybe next time you'll get shoved, or even pepper sprayed, or assaulted even worse.

So, the transgender person sits down on the seat in the adjacent stall, and the visage of Actual Conflicts You Had appear in your mind, saying, "Be afraid! Someone might yell at you! Or worse! It can HAPPEN RIGHT NOW!" It doesn't matter that the trans person has reason to be afraid and the transphobe doesn't-- both are afraid.

The trans person wipes, flushes, and goes to wash their hands. Your cortisol is up, and even just a scornful stare is enough to bring it higher.

I've definitely left situations like that feeling, "fuck!! i have all this anxious energy!! i need to POST about it", falling for the exact thing you described. And then Fox fucking News wins again.

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