neku

neku wrote

Reply to Tate-Pilled by Moonside

this article is good insofar as it describes this cultural phenomenon (that in my mind is sort of already in the past, being that andrew tate stopped really being notable once the cops got him for being a fucking rapist)

But in Men, Wynn gently asks her progressive viewers to consider the possibility that men’s-rights activists’ concerns contain a nugget of truth: that the suffering of men is real, especially among those who were never high on any kind of ladder. Much feminist theory accounts for this, but many online feminists don’t. “Maybe the average man is also oppressed by the system the feminists call patriarchy,” Wynn says. She describes a “genuine crisis of male identity” caused by the decades-long shake-up of cultural gender norms. “The traditional protector-provider role of men is being replaced by a more equal and undefined gender dynamic,” she argues, and this loss of purpose has contributed to higher rates of depression, anxiety, suicidality, and loneliness in men, which is not ameliorated by well-meaning liberals perpetually calling them “toxic.” “I think a lot of feminists have failed to imagine the ways that being treated as invisible or dangerous can also kind of suck,” she says.

i just want to talk about this bit for a sec. theres this pattern of infantilisation of men in this line of thinking that i cant get over. men have lost this supposedly sacred protector-provider role (where they were free to beat and rape their wives and leave them alone to raise their children when the going got tough, but hey, i guess they felt that they were protectors/providers, and that's what matters) and now theyre just so helplessly adrift in this Just So Darn Complicated Post-Feminist World!! if only those nasty feminists could throw them a bone once in a while and realise just how hard it is to be a man now that women know that the emperors have no clothes. i think in 2024 this "patriarchy affects men too!!" argument is soooo played out and corny. its not surprising that this complex social phenomenon has drawbacks for men. but i dont understand why this problem is laid at the feet of feminists like its their fault or problem to solve.

also: "this loss of purpose has contributed to higher rates of depression, anxiety, suicidality, and loneliness in men, which is not ameliorated by well-meaning liberals perpetually calling them “toxic.”" is such little bitch shit i cannot help but roll my eyes. like first of all are liberals really calling men "toxic" en masse? it's (at the time of this article's publication 2023). be real. this is not an actual problem for anyone whos not the softest most sensitive snowflake. but after an entire article talking about how men and boys fell in love with tackiest, dumbest, most predictable mommy issues MRA on the planet, leading to changes in their behaviour that directly affected the women and girls around them negatively, i think it's fucking generous for someone to call masculinity toxic! if masculinity is so fragile and tenuous in this craaazy postmodern world of ours that this cigar-chomping rapist boor andrew tate becomes a symbol of its resurgence and strength then it deserves all the hate it gets. ugh!

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neku wrote (edited )

yeah its like... this is your ig baddie feminist #icon? and this is what she's got? turning jolene, a song that's basically about recognising the beauty and power of another woman, into a song about your own beauty and power because you're... jay-z's wife and pseudo mother? maybe i'm being reductive but it's just so nothing

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neku wrote

i dont really dislike beyonce herself but her brand is very annoying because i dont really enjoy her music and her fans are absolutely insufferable. i think its so funny that she voluntarily included the line "i raised that man, i raised his kids" like maam this is not a flex. for jay-z? you're proud of that? ok

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neku wrote

i kind of put my emo phase (in the sense of enjoying the aesthetics and subculture but not really participating in it) behind me as i grew up and rarely if ever listen to the music of that era any more but when i do i can feel awfully nostalgic in a way that i don't get for other music. i totally hated my life back then, in ways that aren't really familiar or pertinent to me now, but sometimes i wish i could go back and be that person again. sorry to hear that you're having a rough go of things right now. sometimes you just gotta sing along to an entire album alone in your car

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neku OP wrote

unfortunately it takes me about three or four years to listen to an album because i am bad at keeping track :( the latest mg album i listened to was goths or the wrestling one, whichever is newer

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