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Who are you talking to? There's like five people here and we're all saturated with things we're doing to help other people. I'm not sure where this is coming from.

If you're thinking about people in general, I think you're expressing a kind of general dislike for people in the world that I don't think is good for you or your activism. People right now are very isolated from one another, and you're not going to break through that with... whatever this is. If this is something your org is presenting to you as a normal way of thinking I'd be concerned.

Consider this an admin warning, you're at a level of aggro against others that we don't really want to be for jstpst. Please think before posting again and have a good evening!

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Though I’m going to interject that while giving money for mutual aid is awesome, spending your time in mutual aid is even cooler

Agreed 100%. The only exception would be rather contrived, e.g. someone in the enviable position of making a lot of money, and as a direct output of their labor. (I.e. Not salaried). But "hourly and makes bank" is pretty rare, and those people are usually hustle culture capitalists lol.

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Further, throwing away hobbies is not option [..] continuing to make art is an essential part of this

A hundred times this…

If you said, "Look up your local tenants union" or "Get a pistol permit" or "Take a first aid class" or "Put money toward mutual aid rather than toward video games", then that might be something.

…and this

(Though I’m going to interject that while giving money for mutual aid is awesome, spending your time in mutual aid is even cooler)

Not everyone is a front line fighter shock troop, and that’s ok - because other roles are needed too.

I'm also doing some things which aren't exactly illegal but I sure won't be talking about here.

Right?

Though in fairness OP did specify this wasn’t aimed at those who are already “doing what you need to do”. Still, keep your security zones siloed. Don’t break operational security, even for relatively minor things.

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I upvoted this post, and I appreciate the sentiment, but I think this post suffers from some Leftist Mistakes. Painting organizing as "throw away your entire way of life and do something" both (1) paints organizing as something destructive and undesirable, but also (2) is vague and not something anyone can do.

(Further, throwing away hobbies is not option. Culture and knowledge is carried through art. This isn't some distanced moral principal-- continuing to make art is an essential part of this. The Republicans know that, that's why they have "God King Trump" childrens books.)

An eight year old migrant girl was put in a cage today. What are you doing to free her?

The thing is, we can't be in every fight. You have to be in some fight, but you can't do anything if you try to be in every fight.

I've not done anything to free her. Do you have any advice? What can I do?

Put your phone down, get off your ass, and start getting involved. This is not a request.

Sure, this is not a request. But it's not actionable, either. "Getting involved" is so vague you might as well not say it.

If you said, "Look up your local tenants union" or "Get a pistol permit" or "Take a first aid class" or "Put money toward mutual aid rather than toward video games", then that might be something.

For me, I'm doing peaceful disruptive protests. I'm also doing data work for my local tenant union specifically in support of homeless people in a nearby city. I'm sysadmining a few places (sry jstpst i'm cheating on you) which enables discussions like these. I'm also doing some things which aren't exactly illegal but I sure won't be talking about here.

This is on top of my day job, which I need to do to get money so I can eat and continue to exist. It's a lot of work. I don't know what I can do for the eight year old girl.

So, if the kids gloves are off, then I'm going to challenge you to be more specific.

An eight year old migrant girl was put in a cage today. What can I do to free her?

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Reply to comment by in Prediction by

The kernel of the idea is that they're gonna take things down and not replace them, and they're gonna remove birthright but not bother to replace that, and for a week we'll all be like, "oh hey babies are getting born to generational American families but they're NOT CITIZENS" and then we'll get used to the concept.

But I guess that isn't a joke in the end.

So I added bugs.

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Reply to Prediction by

(This post was originally conceived as a joke but then I realized that's just Starship Troopers so I went ahead and added the bugs)

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This actually kind of happened earlier 2024. Asbestos is very common despite regulations, but the EPA ended up banning it for realsies. One of the many huge wins that gives me pause about the "Kamala and Biden is 99% Hitler" stuff. Conservatives got angry about that, but "make nurseries asbestos again" didn't take off.

Maybe those mesothelioma memes were a good thing.

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First, this is sitting at +1 upvotes and -9 downvotes. I am one of the downvotes. I've no idea which of these post-powered president-fucking forum freaks have voted this revolting post up.

Second, Jimmy Carter is... Oh no... Ohhoho ... Ohhnno...

Jimmy Carter is 100.25 years old, and his electability has diminished but the DNC is keeping its options open

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Maybe there's a reasonable explanation, but maybe the road to hell is lined with "benefit of the doubt".

Exactly. And the thing is, some fraction of the uncounted ballots probably are for completely unrelated reasons, and they rely on this for plausible deniability. But taken as a whole, I believe most of these cases are cases of deliberate lack of care, i.e., voter suppression.

The real question now is: so what? What are we going to do about it?

Edit: just to be clear, I don’t have an answer - this is just what I’ve been asking myself the last month

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But, why wasn't my vote counted?

I’m absolutely convinced it’s because someone knew there would be no consequences for burying it. Voter suppression is far more likely to get hand wringing than a serious response, so active grassroots voter suppression has become popular.

It’s turns out the old saying “if voting could bring change it would be illegal” was wrong. Instead, it’s “if voting could bring change we will rig the results.”

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Within context, this sounds like they're talking specifically about those inside the Executive branch of the United States:

But the further down the ranks you go, the more pervasive the anger at the US’s complicity in mass slaughter becomes. An entire contingent of junior White House staffers, for instance, made up a “staffer bloc” in pro-ceasefire demonstrations in Washington, DC. As a former US diplomat, I know that many people have resigned quietly and anonymously over Gaza. Many want to quit but literally don’t know what other work they’d be qualified for. These administrators—the ones who make up most of the foreign policy bureaucracy that the Obama administration derided as “the Blob”—are the ones angriest about American policy in Gaza. They are also the ones who can do the least about it, and they know it.

(That said, I have only read part of this article so far)

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