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twovests OP wrote
one one hand, joe biden is probably more like. 50% hitler. maybe 10% hitler at best.
but honestly 1% hitler is too much hitler!
when i think of voting for joe biden, there is a part of me that pushes bile up my throat to my tongue.
probably because of the 10% hitler thing.
and i think it's making a VERY compelling argument not to vote for joe biden
hollyhoppet wrote
missed opportunity not going for 69% hitler
twovests OP wrote
too funny when we're discussing someone who can be esteemed by units of hundredths of a hitler
hollyhoppet wrote
usually i make myself vote democrat for the presidential election because a republican prez is slightly worse but man..... i don't think i can vote for genocide joe lol
hollyhoppet wrote
not that it'll make much of a difference but still
twovests OP wrote
this is how im feeling. man
yeha, mr. joe is effectively a bit better. but man, genocide is super not good! that's an entire genocide! it's happening right now, what the fuck!
flabberghaster wrote
Even though I know a trump win will be disastrous, I will not be voting for Genocide Joe for two main reasons. Three really.
The first is, given my state, my vote doesn't matter. But I feel that that is a huge cop out, and I acknowledge that. There's so many things people say "well my opinion on it doesn't matter so I don't need a position on this." If you're weighing in on politics, you're implicitly saying you want people to take you and your politics seriously so you have to have an answer for how you'd like things. So, I won't be voting for him, and it doesn't matter if I do or don't, but I'm not just trying to avoid the question.
Number two, the dude spent the entire primary saying everything I want politically is stupid and he has zero interest in it. He then spent his entire term in office continuing to say all the stuff I wanted (student loan cancellation, climate action, an end to the maltreatment of refugees, I could go on) was never gonna happen. He doesn't want my vote. He thinks he can get by without it and he thinks we're all silly for having the politics we do. Maybe he's right, I don't know.
Third, the man is engaged in an ongoing genocide. This is a red line. I will never vote for him. Even if he had done every other thing I wanted, I find it shocking that saying "assisting in a genocide is a red line for me" seems to be an alien concept for a lot of people.
I won't vote for 99% Hitler to stop 100% Hitler because I won't vote for Hitler.
hollyhoppet wrote
i appreciate there's a section for horses lol
twovests OP wrote (edited )
eugh we're on the same side, but this just reminds me of why i don't visit raddle. this masterlist sucks
to be clear without irony: i can't vote for joe biden, and facts and logic don't dictate you should vote for him. but this masterlist sucks lol
(my "joe biden facts and logic" full post goes into the philosophy of thought, acknowledging humans can't have all the facts and logic, and so much rely on modeling uncertainty, thinking epistemologically, and using heuristics. the conclusion is that if voting for joe biden causes bile to raise up your throat, you shouldn't vote for him.
but thats meandering and not a good post so i didnt post it. used 1600 words when "voting for joe biden makes me puke" is enough)
anyways. the list
the very first link is republican propaganda! it's a "GOP War Room" youtube video that cuts him off mid sentence to make the b it juicy. (30 years ago, biden said "what happens to haiti doesn't impact us national interests, even if it started levitating or sinking." the gross part is the first bit, but it focuses on the "levitating or sinking" bit.)
and the republican propaganda is not even the worst part!
it's disingenuous to pretend the biden admin's actions regarding lgbt people, students, labor, etc. are (1) not significantly better than the trump admin, or (2) even comparable to supporting genocide or putting children in cages.
the "Student?" one is the worst part. student loan forgiveness is the brightest point in the biden admin. they tried to get $10K/student relieved, and fought it all the way to the supreme court. they've done everything else they can do short of packing the courts, and they've forgiven like $10 billion in student loans so far, as well as forgiving interest and making repayments easier.
this is on the same list that (correctly) points out how important joe biden is to the ongoing genocide machine.
i think this lesser-evilism thing is self-defeating. "lesser evilism" is just compromise, and i'm compromising when i ally with the kind of people who make these kinds of lists. (but to be clear, i'm not allied with the OP. from their post history, i think they'd qualify half of jstpst as white supremacists)
tldr: joe biden sucks but i dont want to be facebook about it
neku wrote
its kind of weird thinking that actually this is the normal playbook for the democrats. the obama election, which preceded basically the defining presidency for my political identity, was actually an outlier because people were actually excited to vote for him lol. it'll be 99% hitlers until the usa ends