gratz on the bug!

I assume it's because of the posts ghost getting upset and banning people but then regretting it and unbanning them shortly after.

suffice it to say w33dbot is a complicated subject probably not worth discussing here aside from it wasn't our bot

it's fine. since the concussion i've had more trouble reading whether something is ironic or not especially when it's something i feel bad about already so i had no way of knowing

good to know. w33dbot is still staying up, right?

i was joking about joining years from now on, like if i had any interest in the irc bridge i would have already used it, but i guess that came across poorly. sorry.

Honestly I am quite technical an user and I really haven't stumbled upon an IRC client that I really like, approximately in the same way as I enjoy using a well-designed toaster. The one I used the longest was the one in Emacs! Discord is kinda pretty ok if you forget about the corporate side.

there's irccloud but that's more a web based client than a znc service

Tbh even IRC has a high barrier of entry for technical people who want message logs and basic privacy (i.e. ZNC).

I'm kind of shocked there isn't some free or very-cheap ZNC service out there, I'd much rather pay $5/mo to a service that does all the hard work than $5/mo to manage my own VPS.

i'm gonna be real i still don't understand whether you're joking or being mean to me or both

😮

i lied. irc sucks and im never using it again.

I was being silly, sorry. I don't actually advocate doing what I said.

while i really don't like discord as a company i think it's important to remember that the perceived barrier to entry is way smaller than irc for non-technical people. i can't tell you how many times in the IRC's heyday people expressed not wanting to join because IRC seemed difficult to use for them.

i honestly feel like IRC and its successors (discord, slack, matrix to a degree) are major internet infrastructure, and there should be a more accessible version of it that isn't owned by a corporation but we don't really have that.

i'm sorry. i just don't have the spoons to keep up with maintaining things. there was basically only one person who was using it anyway.

Deprecate discord. Make everyone go back to IRC.

that sucks. i was planning to join them a year or two from now.

Truly illegal to lay off a Holly!

funny you should say that becuase i might have been laid off illegally and am in early talks with a lawyer about it lol

It should be illegal to lay off holly, IMO.

Hey, I've got couple of valid CSRF tokens I'm not using. Ping me tonight and I'll put it in the mail.

it will do that if the session expires, which basically means the temporary data associated with you is purged from the server. it should work if you retry it.

you can never leave

I missed the Tor thing and I care a lot about online security. It's a real shame that the increase in interest in decentralized / federated communities is in part attributed to alt-right trolls.

Anyways yeah I'm glad this isn't a ~free speech zone~. Ever try to moderate a community while holding a stringint free-speech absolutist line??? It's a tough and stressful and unrewarding task for an unpaid volunteer! And then you get lawsuits or whatnot.

tbh it's always a tough decision whether to provide rebuttals at risk of feeding potential trolls. i almost did myself lol