want something that'll make two cups of coffee and no paper waste. i've been enjoying coffee lately and doing pourovers but one cup just isn't enough to satisfy my craving

if it makes any difference i have to drink decaf

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bunnies wrote on February 22, 2022 at 10:25 PM

Have you considered getting pourover equipment with higher capacity? French press coffee is always going to be inferior to well made pourover imho, and while moka tastes amazing as a small shot I have my doubts about diluting it.

hollyhoppet OP wrote on February 22, 2022 at 10:43 PM

despite the way i wrote that, i'm more concerned about paper waste than i am about capacity

twovests wrote on February 23, 2022 at 3:34 PM

They make reusable metal filters (albeit they may take awhile to "even out" ecologically). The metal will also keep the oils and the 'siltiness' like a french press (which you might or might not want)

hollyhoppet OP wrote on February 24, 2022 at 12:59 AM

i can't stand the siltiness but i think in the long run i'm going to get cloth filters (there's some highly rated ones out there) and a pourover thingy that'll let me make 2-3 cups

emma wrote on February 22, 2022 at 9:15 PM

can't speak to moka pots, but french presses tend to make the coffee quite bitter or "impure" for lack of a better way to describe it. i make decaf in mine sometimes when i'm too lazy to clean the machine, and i'm satisfied with the result but it's not amazing by any stretch of the imagination.

hollyhoppet OP wrote on February 22, 2022 at 9:42 PM

yeah that's been my impression with french press as well. guess i'm gonna dive into the moka pot world

twovests wrote on February 22, 2022 at 9:51 PM (edited on February 22, 2022 at 10:04 PM)

French presses are good for both tea and coffee, and IMO are much easier to use.

If you get a moka pot, make sure to get the deceptively-named '6-cup one', which will make about 3 "espresso shots" worth (and maybe one cup in volume.) They make strong flavored coffee that you'll want to dilute to make a "standard" cup.

Moka pots are definitely a lot trickier to use, I've used one maybe 100 times and have yet to get the hang of it.

emma wrote on February 23, 2022 at 12:49 AM

There needs to be an industry-wide reckoning among coffee equipment manufacturers with the unrealistically low volume that constitutes a "cup"

twovests wrote on February 23, 2022 at 1:08 AM

I think it's meant to measure how many cups of espresso they produce. I think we can give Bialetti a pass. Did they even use imperial measurements in Italy 3000 years ago when they invented the Moka pot?

toasthaste wrote on February 23, 2022 at 5:05 PM

I have a french press and I like it but I always kinda wished I'd gotten a moka pot instead (but I have never used one so idk if I would actually have liked it better) so that's a data point for ya