Submitted by twovests in vote_satan (edited )
(i swear i'm not some evil long-con forum troll trying to sow discord by asking questions)
I don't actually know what socialism is. I understand Bernie Sander's platform, and people tell me that's a form of socialism? There's also a whole bunch of examples people cite of socialism or communism, but they're all failed and/or horrible. From my understanding, "this hasn't ever worked" seems like a good and true point.
Y'all are a generally pretty smart and good group and I was wondering if you had Good Reading Resources for People Who Don't Know Things. I'd prefer reading resources that don't add emotional content and also try to provide details in a holistic manner.
(edit: i swear i'll get around to reading this after midterms and paper submission deadlines pass)
(edit i swear i'm still planning to read these im just dying from busy rightn ow)
(edit: i read ur posts now, thank u for postin)
Moonside wrote
I'll give a metaexplanation: liberalism, socialism and conservatism are all to an extent responses to trends in 17th century Britain. Socialism, conservatism and later fascism are all, in part, differing reactions to liberalism. The point is, things have been around for a long time by now and each tradition has lots of stuff in it. The messiness is essential and not accidental complexity.
There's also the fact that misunderstandings about what socialism is run rampart in politics. It's not when the government does things like the GOP says.
I recommend giving a read to Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on socialism. It fits your criteria, the encyclopedia is a peer reviewed resource and the article has, like, 100 works in its bibliography. It's also not a 19th century text like the ones socialists online often recommend. Stay away from YouTube for the moment being.
If you don't have experience reading philosophical texts, I recommend to:
I mean it's an encyclopedia article, so it's somewhat less bad to read casually, but imho this is step where people fuck up so why not do it right from the beginning?
My own personal take is that Sanders is as a private person a socialist, but he isn't running on a socialist platform for POTUS. He won't bring forth socialism (or make the world much closer to it), but if I were an American, I'd get involved in his campaign, but I see the movement as more important than any figureheads, including Sanders.
This was long because I'm procrastinating, but hopefully it's helpful.