Do people generally understand that the transgender military ban in the US is a very bad thing?

Submitted by twovests in vote_satan (edited )

A lot of trans people are lefties who are against the military industrial complex, but being trans isn't something that prescribes politics.

I think we can all agree the US is very very evil and our military is very very evil and it does a lot of bad things. I think we've all been primed on that.

But something we tend to ignore, forget, (or maybe not having had known in the first place?) is that it can be many very good things for an individual. It's a structured and disciplined environment, which teaches a lot of hard and soft skills, with great networking opportunities. It looks great on a resume and for most people in the US, and it's a great avenue out of poverty. For a lot of people, it replaces the role college pays, or it's something you do to help pay for college.

I'm not here to boost the army.

I am here to point out that a career in the US army is one of the main avenues to participating in society. This is especially so for people with poor economic prospects.

Cutting trans people out from that and kicking decorated trans soldiers out from their long careers is just one aspect of the trans genocide. It's one step from annihilating us from society, politics, and culture.

This is a significant step in trans genocide. I think a lot more trans people online have a history in the military than would admit it. But military bad, so we're not talking about the trans military ban, or the fact that trans service members will be cut out from their careers starting in June.

And it's not just us, either. US womens and black history also shows the history of legitimization and participation in society that follows participation in the armed forces. We're just the first domino; they're already laying the roadwork for banning women and people of color from having military careers.

I know it's not sympathetic to hear from an individual who is participating in America's Genocide Machine, but the trans military ban is part of the eradication of trans people from public life.

TLDR: The transgender military ban is bad and is part of the trans genocide, but nobody is talking about it :( Do people understand this is a very bad thing? Am I saying something people already know?

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cowloom wrote

A deal with the devil might present certain "opportunities for advancement" for the individual involved, but that doesn't change the fact of it being a deal with the devil. I met a trans woman IRL who told me about how she fled a small christofash town after receiving death threats by joining the military, and the thought of "how many poor people of color suffered, directly or indirectly, as a result of her participation in the military?" crossed my mind. If it were me, I would try to find literally any other way to survive - even turning to sex work if I had to - besides joining the US military. If that were the only option, I'd have to think long and hard about whether joining to save my own life would cause more harm to others than good to me in the long run.

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flabberghaster wrote

It's true that no one should join the military but the right to join the military is part of what the state considers to be the rights conferred on you for being a full citizen. When they deem you ineligible to do this core thing that's part of civic life, they're saying you're less of a valid person.

No one should join the military. But the government saying "you are officially an outgroup of undesirables" is very serious.

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twovests OP wrote (edited )

I thought I'd addressed this though. I'm not talking about the individual level; we're agreed about the moral character of military work.

The issues with "if it were me" aside, I'm talking about how the military is an avenue for participation in the US, on the demographic level. Sex work, comparatively, is actively expunged. Trans people are being removed because it's not "honorable, truthful, and disciplined". That is to say, trans people are fraudulent.

Maybe it'll stop there somehow, maybe the world is made of pudding. More likely, this is discrimination that will just impact every trans person in the US, even leftie trans people who dislike the military.

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