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hollyhoppet wrote

yes, but irc was really not easy to use for people who weren't the most tech literate, and the alternative those people used before discord was skype (bleeugh).

ideally there would be an easy-to-use, not-for-profit option but we don't really live in a system where projects like that can get enough development resources to solve the usability issues irc and matrix face.

perhaps even an update to the irc standard or something would have been cool.

so like yeah, discord sucks but it does enable more people to connect in an irc-like fashion than irc did. it's a mixed bag.

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twovests wrote

I think IRCv3 is the update to the standard, but it's been brewing for awhile.

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nitori wrote (edited )

IRCv3 has worse adoption than relatively (in regards to other XEPs) new XMPP extensions like OMEMO tbh lol

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twovests wrote

I was under the impression that it wasn't out yet, I didn't even know I could use it

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nitori wrote (edited )

libera.chat's ircd has implemented some of the IRCv3 standard, but funnily despite being the dominant IRC network it's still lacking compared to say tildeverse's IRC which has chat history for example (also from IRCv3)...

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