twovests OP wrote on May 28, 2022 at 5:08 PM

Reply to comment by flabberghaster in does anyone else get anxious every time Apple has a new announcement coming up by twovests

I think E2EE is available but only for 1-on-1 convos and only by Google's flavor of RCS and I think they store your keys like Apple does anyones

flabberghaster wrote on May 29, 2022 at 9:12 AM

Well if they have the keys to decrypt it then there's no point in E2E, it's effectively not encrypted, since they can decrypt it.

I mean, it's better than not being encrypted at all but the whole point of E2E is only you and your intended recipients can read it.

twovests OP wrote on May 29, 2022 at 5:42 PM

Yeah, it's basically just transport encryption.

With basic SMS, anyone with $100 or so of equipment (like, police, or even a bored and resourceful child) can fake a tower and force-downgrade your encryption to read your messages. Your cell provider also sees your messages.

At least with iMessage or whatnot, you can rest assured that only Apple can open your messages. And, I assume it's not standard to open them (for analytics and marketing) unless there's a warrant.