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neku wrote

I mean sure, but the Mona Lisa has value beyond its scarcity (though its scarcity is a significant contributor to its value) because it's a historical artifact with artistic merit

NFTs are completely devoid of value independent of their scarcity. They have literally 0 artistic merit because they are basically picrew avatars pumped out by cynical bitcoin shitheads in order to drain money from morons. Without their perceived "uniqueness" they are not interesting at all. So they hate it when that putative uniqueness is undermined because it reminds them that they spent four or five figures on a jpeg of an ugly monkey

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neku wrote

Also proof of ownership only works as long as people recognise that proof of ownership as valid. If I turned up with a deed to your house from the House Deed Printing Company you would be like "what the fuck is that? get off my property." the more the idea of nft "possession" as "ownership" is undermined, the more valueless it is. so there's financial consequences, despite being abstracted

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twovests OP wrote

Also proof of ownership only works as long as people recognise that proof of ownership as valid

Yeah, that's one of the main issues. You'll still need to rely on traditional legal systems.

In the most generous interpretation, NFTs can help with that? A little? "Here's a hash of the document, here's a hash of the document with my signature on it, and here's that same hash on the blockchain, which can be independently verified."

The second main issue is that you can do most of that without any cryptocurrency shit! The only benefit is that it becomes harder to fake and easier to verify.

But the third main issue is that that's not even how it's being used! NFTs aren't storing hashes of some piece of art, it's storing a URL to a centralized platform. This URL can change (and absolutely will when the platform goes down.)

So, in even the most generous interpretation of NFTs, they have little value. And that little value is completely undermined by how they're used in practice.

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twovests OP wrote

That's why I started my post with "the most generous interpretation of NFTs".

The stupid apes aren't inherent to NFTs. The centralized platforms thing aren't inherent to NFTs.

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