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cowloom wrote

Reply to comment by flabberghaster in I should go back to being vegetarian again by flabberghaster

Sorry for the very late response; I've been busy lately and haven't logged on in a while. My experience was somewhat different, because I watched Earthlings (a documentary on slaughterhouses and factory farms), and I knew I had to go vegan immediately. I couldn't justify one more non-vegan purchase, not even in the name of a "baby steps" transition, because I would still be causing harm to animals during that process. For me, the switch was actually pretty easy, because I just looked up vegan recipes for all of my favorite foods, and made those. Purging my mind of toxic masculinity was easily ten times more difficult than going vegan. I (and every other feminist) still expect male chauvinists to do that, no matter how difficult it may be for them, because there is no justification for continuing to cause harm once they know better. I don't see why it should be any different with veganism.

If you absolutely must take things one step at a time, just remember that every non-vegan meal is still causing harm to animals. The quicker you can make the switch, the better.

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flabberghaster OP wrote

No two ways about it in that I'm like most people: not that good of a person tbh.

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cowloom wrote

This reads like an attempt at deflection by self-deprecation to me, so I'll say that we all have a duty to uphold justice in every aspect of our lives. We may be fallible by nature, but that doesn't excuse us from trying to be better. I doubt you really think of yourself as a bad person, but in case you do - what are you doing to be better? Shrugging your shoulders and saying "well, I guess I'm not a good person then" doesn't absolve you.

Forgive my bluntness, but the animals are suffering and dying on an unimaginable scale. Going vegan isn't a "personal choice" - it's a moral necessity.

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flabberghaster OP wrote (edited )

No, not self deprecating. Most people just aren't that good of people.

I just need to be realistic. I've tried doing it before and it never sticks. It works better and is easier to stick with if I move to it over time, because I know myself and I know that I will just slip later on and drop it altogether in the future if I don't.

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