hollyhoppet OP wrote on February 13, 2025 at 8:22 PM

Reply to comment by hollyhoppet in reading history on the collapses/dissolutions/ends of various empires by hollyhoppet

but like like... when large government structures fail, local structures rise to take their place. you end up with petty tyrants but you also end up with small equitable social structures too.

so uh... move to a blue state if you can and you're not already. and if you can't i wouldn't be surprised if we see a rise of aid groups to get vulnerable people out of the worse locations, and incentives for skilled workers as well.

twovests wrote on February 15, 2025 at 2:33 AM

i AM in a blue state and i am quite happy about that

i wonder what will happen to the internet. i hope people don't throw their routers out once the world wide web isn't

hollyhoppet OP wrote on February 15, 2025 at 2:43 AM

given at this point that it’s a piece of global infrastructure managed by a nonprofit with offices across the world i imagine the web is going to outlast the us tbh

hollyhoppet OP wrote on February 15, 2025 at 2:58 AM (edited on February 15, 2025 at 2:59 AM)

like… think about it. the web is obscenely valuable, and the icann is headquartered in one of the more socially progressive states in the us (california). if america dissolves california will be in an extremely good diplomatic position because its exports will basically be internet regulation and a large portion of the us entertainment industry

twovests wrote on February 15, 2025 at 5:17 AM

i'm picturing more of an "facebook and discord are down forever? okay, i don'y need a router"

russia and china and iran all have different examples and degrees of separation from the rest of the internet. the UK is trying to backdoor encryption in a way which will force companies to choose to compromise or leave.

in the US, we have differing censorship laws fracturing the internet across different states, and the legal framework and precedent for banning apps.

we also have undersea cables being cut, which is very new i think (november and december 2024.

i'm imagining what might happen if we have a few "we bombed us-east-1" or "texas is doing ercot but for internet" incidents in the span of a year. but it's not something worth time worrying about yet i think