Recent comments in /f/articles

Moonside OP wrote

This article is a bit old by now, but it's a worthy read. I think people on here know by first hand that right wing trolling was organized and coordinated even before gamergate, something much elided in discussions about the online part of the reactionary movements. And the frustration about not taken seriously about the danger of it brewing on 4chan and Reddit is all too familiar.

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mm_ wrote

maybe dramatic but this was kind of a turning point for me in how i view news outlets, cause im not sure id been taken by something like this before

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voxpoplar wrote

"With no understanding of how to deal with the problem, officials ordered pastries delivered to the striking workers and hoped they would be satisfied and go home."

This is basically what modern companies do but with pizza.

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neku OP wrote

it's $1 per day though, which adds up. to be honest i don't know if i wouldn't take the deal. nothing feels private any more any way so why not volunteer your own information for cash, is kind of how i feel, but at the same time i know that it's wrong

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devtesla wrote (edited )

this article is acting like Russagate being less that it was hyped to be is going to have some kind of huge effect on people's trust in the media, when really I think the people who distrust the media are just gonna be distrusting it just as much and people who cling to it are gonna still cling to it. it's good to have all the reporting failures on this story in one place, just like the tone is wild. I also hate that it seems obsessed with the media not being "sides-choosers" which is some deep "the media used to neutral!" bullshit.

also to say Russiagate is worse than the WMDs story I think is grossly insensitive to the fact that millions are dead because of how the media reported on WMDs. Also like the president's campaign manager is in prison, the Mueller investigation was a story. I don't buy the whole "it was just paying off a porn star" framing he uses like in this context paying off a porn star is kinda huge lol.

also look at this ending:

We had the sense to eventually look inward a little in the WMD affair, which is the only reason we escaped that episode with any audience left. Is the press even capable of that kind of self-awareness now? WMD damaged our reputation. If we don’t turn things around, this story will destroy it.

I'd love to live in the planet where getting the WMD story catastrophically wrong resulted in any kind of looking inward, or any damage to the reputation of media institutions, but this is not the case. The opposite is! Reporters that were against the war were punished and haven't recovered, every pro-war reporter has been promoted several times since. The media institutions most responsible for this failure are going to be the only outlets standing when facebook finishes eating the entire industry.

Media is fucked. Media is really fucked up. I don't think the narrative in this story is super explanatory as to why tho lol. If it was framed as like "the media over trusts intelligence agencies, causing catastrophe" then yea that would be a good article. Tho I think reporting on Venezuela is a better explanation of how media orgs buy CIA nonsense tbh, like beveling that a coup is inevitable when it doesn't have a chance that is a bigger fuck up then what, overstating the scope of an FBI investigation?

I'm so sick of this shit can it be over and can we get back to electing socialists plz

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