Submitted by devtesla in GoldenAgeOfTV

I haven't watched since season one and while I did read the books I don't really remember what happens after three.

Anyway the new episode is Daenerys doing some supervillain shit and apparently people are shocked? I thought she was pretty much a villain since like, the second book? That at the very least there was clearly a "when she reaches Westeros something bad will happen" vibe going on, even in the first season of the tv show.

Like seriously I thought the whole Khaleesi thing was a fun, I love the villain thing going on like there is with Darth Vader. Apparently not? lol

Did the tv show change a lot or was it just such a mess that people lost the plot? Anyway that's my GoT thoughts for the next decade

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Moonside wrote

Honestly with the amount of self-described Khaleesis on social media, I assume that a lot of people just genuinely reasoned from blondness that Daenerys was Baenerys. Case in point: Fox talking heads line ups, Theranos etc. for the power of blondness.

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voxpoplar wrote

Not really sure what in the second book made you think she was meant to be a villain. The end of her plot in that book is murdering the shit out of slavers.

It's made obvious that her idealised version of what will happen when she tries to take the thrown won't pan out and she's ignorant of how awful her family history really was, but I don't think she's intended to be a villain, just a complicated protagonist who, like the rest of the cast, is going to have a low point where they probably end up doing some awful shit before redeeming themselves fighting to save the world.

The leading consensus on the aSoIaF people I still follow is that basically that the TV show probably swapped the order of events for Dany's low point and ending. So she does the save the world thing, then the awful thing, completely changing the context of it and just suddenly making her the main villain at the last minute out of nowhere.

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devtesla OP wrote

I get the sense that saving Westeros and not getting the adoration she got in the past is supposed to be why she takes the turn she does, so I don't think anything is reversed. I think that makes less sense, actually.

My gut is that they're following the grrm's general outline and just forgetting to make sure everything makes sense.

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voxpoplar wrote

My gut is that they're following the grrm's general outline and just forgetting to make sure everything makes sense.

this part is definitely true at least

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