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cowloom OP wrote

Reply to comment by Moonside in I miss the old days of SRS by cowloom

I never visited the chapo subreddit; all I heard about it was secondhand complaining about the liberals on it from /r/ShitLiberalsSay. When SRS was starting to wane, I migrated to other leftist/socialist subreddits for a while. Then I got involved with IRL organizing, and realized half the stuff people were making a hullabaloo about on the internet wasn't really important.

I guess some of my criticisms of SRS are that the community was too quick to dogpile ignorant redditors who came across the sub and simply didn't understand things. Maybe it's hard for other people, but it's easy for me to tell the difference between an actual concern troll and someone with ignorant views who's attempting to engage in good faith, and I think flaming the latter did a real disservice to our movement. I understand the conditions that led to this state of affairs (the sub being constantly brigaded by trolls), but if someone's genuine questions were met with hostility, they probably wouldn't be giving feminism a second thought, and may even double down on their reactionary views. I also think rule x may have caused as many problems as it solved; IRL organizing has taught me the vital importance of principled criticism & self criticism, and by disallowing that, it meant that actual problems within the community couldn't be addressed (cowloom was benned for this comment). There were a few other things, like the prevalence of identity reductionist politics, liberal feminism & liberalism in general, SRS disco turning into SRS drubbing every second thread, but I digress.

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Moonside wrote

I actually think the circle jerk part was fine. One sub for dunking and nothing else? If the targets were bad enough whatever.

The rest of the fempire could have been in better faith and lose the reading lists. (Reading lists for online groups are self flagellation and came out of the liberal feminists shakesville scene, which was basically a blog cult.)

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cowloom OP wrote

I wasn't trying to say prime shouldn't have been a circlejerk. More like when non-troll redditors showed up on SRS and said they didn't understand why X was bad, I think it would've been better to say something like "This isn't the place for learning, please ask your question in SJ101," or directing them to resources instead of the benhemmer. Also when you say reading lists, do you mean a list of required texts to read before being allowed to participate, or just a list of texts relevant to a certain topic? And yeah, better faith 100%

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